I try to produce music with a « meaning »
You like scientific series. Would you be able to compose for any ?
Sure. Why not ? I like the BBC-documentaries very. This are the best in the world. So I would like to do something for them. Chiefly something for a docu about Time and Space or about CERN…
In your opinion what will your music may add to a movie ?
This is difficult to answer. The result should be a compromise. Not too much own ego but also no « muzack » ; no « only functional » music. The picture is in the center. Everything else is around that and also the music has to subordinate and slightly to enforce the visible statement. But of course it would be nice to get musically recognized. As an acoustic signature.
You do like concept albums. Would you think that can be a screenplay (script) ? (I'm thinking about Françis Bréant « Sons Optiques », that is an imaginary soundtrack).
Well, speaking about my own work now. With the recent solo-album « Antimatter », I have written now Part 3 of my « Trilogy of the Universe ». What with « Celestial Movements » (about stars and space) began and what with « Beyond The Deep » (a journey to the sources of our lifes) was continued, will now find an end and also a beginning, because « Antimatter » will be the music about the « big bang in a laboratory». This is at least the search for the meaning of our existance. We seem to rotate in a never ending circle. So this would be a great theme for a movie as well as for a show on stage.
Have you already left a movie to run to your recording studio at replay the music heard ? Or an other music inspired by the pictures seen ?
No, not directly. This would be too dangerous to me. This is allways the same with listening other peoples music. I don’t do it, if I produce something new. The risk to get influenced is too high. Generally it is not the movies that influence me, it is more the way, how they are produced. For example, I am impressed how modern movies are cutted or how some scenes are filmed or how time becomes reversed. Film is another kind of language which I try to understand and which I try to bring into my music. « Tsunami », one track of my album « Beyond The Deep » is a good example for. There are cuts, breaks, changing acoustic images, different scenes etc. Like different pictures painted on one single wall. Many movies work in the same direction and recognizing this was a true revelation to me. Watch Chris Nolan’s «Prestige » and you will know, what I mean. The story within the story. This is what I want to tell and do.
Your music is more than ever symphonic. Don't you think that it's getting more and more cinematic ?
This is the way I want to go (at the moment). There is so much to learn and discover now. I appreciate to interpret my music in a symphonic and also in a cinematic style. This opens new doors and musical possibilities to me. Letting an orchestra sound « electronic » is a nice approach to me. My music was at every time wide and open. Never minimal and reduced. I ever liked big and epic sounds. Now I am honest enough to allow myself to play epic music with more but only with synthesizers. I hope the day will come, when I can work with a real orchestra. That could be very interesting…
When I started to record « Celestial Movements », I worked with concrete pictures in my mind. For the first time. Except on « Outlines », where I had composed music for a theatre play, most of my music was « mood based », spontaneous and improvised. I let the machines run and recorded it. This has changed totally. I feel more inspired than ever before and today I know, how much I blocked my self to be really creative in earlier times. I had allways the same schemes in my head and I didn’t change this because of the fear that the people could not like my other music. A big mistake. But this is past now. I make music for virtual movies. I allways see one if I produce a new album.
Music scores in american blockbusters are mostly made with symphonic orchestra in studio. Do you think that electronic music can do the same result nowadays ?
I am sure that virtual instruments are allways in use too. The soundquality is so good that only really trained and tought musicians are able to hear the difference. But the most impressive effect is, if you are able to combine both worlds. Hans Zimmer did this for example in his « Inception » score. He used synthesizers and real brass and string ensembles. If I listen to this music, I can sometimes not differentiate between them. Maybe only by the dynamics of the played sounds. A real drum or brass is at least unbeatable in its dynamic range.
Violin is the perfect instrument for making the people react in sadnesss even cry on a scene. How do you procede this with electronic gear ?
Using sounds from synthesizers is allways a kind of imitation. Sometimes closer, sometimes more far away from the original (which can also be a nice result of course). How close a sound gets to an original, depends not only on the delivered soundsource (in most cases samples nowadays), it also depends on how you interpret and play them. The acoustic result depends also on the technical possibilitites. How much or better how « deep » can you control this sound ? And this means at least : how much are you able to express your mood into a sound ? The way you play has a large part of the final result. A perfect sound means nothing, if it is badly played. So we are again there to watch at the emotional or human part of making music. Playing sad if you aren’t able to imagine that feeling (beside you are really sad) is a difficult thing. Only the best can do it. Like a good actor who can cry by a fingersnip.
There is also another point to have a look on. We all are controlled by emotional templates. We expect to become sad if we listen to a lonely violin, we are ready to fight, if we listen to some military drums etc. A good composer of filmmusic knows this. A better one tries to counteracts these schemes. A good example is the killing scene in Blade Runner. You know, the moment where this Nexus 6 lady, Zhora, runs through windows in slowmotion during she becomes shot. The music is not aggressive or fast. It is exactly that « Blade Runner Blues » theme that fits perfectly to this scenery.
Today I use both, synthesizers and VSTs to create a sound. I combine and layer them sometimes. I am only looking for the right sound which I want to use for a special musical moment and it doesn’t bother me, where the sound comes from.
In the 80's a lot of scores where done with E.M. Everybody enjoyed that, as Moroder’s « Midnight Express » or less commercial stuff as Davenport for Xtro for example. Today those OST sounds a little bit cheap and has been, really too much 80ies… On the other hand classical parts are still good within the time they were produced. Why ?
Latest in the 80ies was to everybody clear that synthesizers were THE alternative to real and expensive orchestras and musicians. Synthesizers had became cheaper and more versatile in those days and you could produce quickly and massively sounds for all kinds of movies. This saved money to the studios and producers. These were also the days of the so called « blockbuster » movies. Movies for the masses all around the world. The music was transported with them and it is clear to me that many of the soundtracks became hits. Everything was new. The special effects as well as the sounds. So the difficulty was to get into that scenery. Only a few composers were allowed to find that « holy grail ».
Lots of composers are still creating their music via E.M. Gear costs less and you just need to plug applications to « get some sounds ». Everybody calls himself a « composer ». What do you think about that ?
I think a composer defines himself by his compositions and not by the tools which he uses. It is true, building up a DAW-based recording studio is a simple thing today and as everybody used the same synthesizers in past, today everybody uses the same plug-ins to create « sound ». Is this a problem? In my opinion only, if you have no ideas what to do with all this. The possibilities which you get today are tremendeous. An example: my lastest solo-album « Antimatter » was recorded and produced completely on a DAW. That means there were up to 70 audio and MIDI-tracks which had to be mixed down, to be EQed, to get compressed and mastered etc. . All this is possible with full audio quality today. In earlier times you would have needed a big console and a huge studio. At least an invaluable solution for artists with a low budget. Of course you can discuss endless about advantages and disadvantages of such solutions. But for me, it is a chance. So if lots of people use this solutions, there is absolutely nothing to say against or to judge about it. I don’t care about that. As it ever was: the musical result is the point to focus on and not the way to it.
Beside all this, I think that alot of people get controlled by the equipment they use. They define themselves only by this and not by their work. But this is more a question or better a problem of their egos and the image what they would like to have.
The movies that use lots of pieces of music comming from young composers who are famous with dancing electro hits are often used in Night-Clubs or smart parties. Most are loops that never really ends, rhythms that repeat without ending. People are dancing and they're happy. Would you enjoy to make a Hit or a more simple and understandable (for masses) piece ? Then would you like that people could danse in listening some of you titles ? Or you dont really cares about that ?
Generally I try to produce music with a « meaning ». I try to create something special and unique with every track. One consequence is, that my music will never find its way into a Nightclub or Disco. No worries about that. It is ok to produce « endless sound » for easy consumption, if others do this. But this is no option for me. A « hit » is at least nothing you can control. You can produce tracks, you can stand behind them but how many good tracks are out there, which never become or became a « hit » ? So I do not force myself with this approach. Of course things in my life would be much easier, if I would have a « hit » but this is not in my hands. Also it would be arrogant to say music for the masses is something pointless. Everybody of us needs that moment of pure entertainment (what finally closes the ring and brings us back to Hollywood). Just for fun only. We would become mad if we would not have that kind of « ventile »… And if really somebody dances to my music, please show me the video. This is something, I would really like to see ;-).
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